<**MODERATOR**> JOYCE YOU HAVE THE FIRST QUESTION:)

<Joyce (pre-op)> Please discuss the possibilities of damage to organs long term due to the rapid weightloss. I am very worried about that at this point in my research. (love your sense of humor by the way!)

<Dr. Simpson> rapid weight loss isn't really a problem. The organs are happy to be living without so much around them....

<Dr. Simpson> it is a stress to the body, however, it is something which needs to be done, and most paints enjoy it and are quite healthy during this time period....

<Dr. Simpson> in the old surgeries, such as Jejuno-Ileal bypass, there was damage to the liver, and some had liver failure...

<Dr. Simpson> but that was due to bacterial overgrowth of the bypassed segment, something which does not happen in toady's world of surgery....

<Joyce (pre-op)> so i won't regret it in 10 or 20 years?

<Dr. Simpson> so, the faster you get to lose it, the more likely you will be around in 10 to 20 years to enjoy it.

<Dr. Simpson> unless, of course, you are shot by a jealous lover.

<Joyce (pre-op)> lol.. thx

<**MODERATOR**> TESS YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION PLEASE:)

<tess> Hello Dr.- I have a BMI of 35.5 with rheumatoid, HTN---rheumatoid very bad ---many bouts with steroids an surgery on right foot--------what areyour thoughts on Ins approval?--

<Dr. Simpson> Joint conditions, which are exacerbated by obesity are one of the reasons or co morbidities cited by the ...

<Dr. Simpson> NIH in their study in 1997. So, most insurance companies do follow those guidelines, unless they...

<Dr. Simpson> are trying not to pay for the surgery in general. So, I would imagine it shouldn't be a problem with a reputable insurance company. Good luck.

<**MODERATOR**> MARY YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION PLEASE:)

<Mary> I had gall bladder surgery years ago but I had a severe attack of all the symptoms, the doc said I wass passing stones through the biliary ducts, can anything be done about avoiding further attacks?? it has been 18 months since my surgery, are there any chances of complications of the surgery ??

<Dr. Simpson> Well, Mary you are far enough out that the complication rate is almost zero...

<Dr. Simpson> in terms of your biliary colic, you probably need to have a study to see if there are stones in your bile duct...

<Dr. Simpson> a HIDA scan might do it, so check with your surgeon, because if you still have some, they might need to come out....

<Dr. Simpson> in terms of other complications, well, I think you need to keep walking, drink lots of water, and eat some protein, then you would be just fine. Good luck.

<**MODERATOR**> SHV YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<shv> I'm having the Lap and not the open. Is one surgery safer then the other? Should you go on a diet to shrink your liver before surgery?

<Dr. Simpson> Well, safe is what your surgeon does. If your surgeon does the lap, then that is the safest for you...

<Dr. Simpson> in terms of having an enlarged liver from fat, a condition called NASH-- or non alcoholic

<Dr. Simpson> steatorrhic hepatitis, that is something that will shrink after your surgery, far more than before the surgery...

<Dr. Simpson> although some laparoscopic surgeons like it shrunk a bit before the surgery. You should do just fine. Go and sin no more.

**MODERATOR**> DENA YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<DENA> DOES THE OPEN RNY HAVE ANY EFFECTS ON THE SECRETION OF DOPAMINE AND SERATONIN, IF SO WHAT?

<Dr. Simpson> well dopamine and seratonin are secreted in a number of places in the brain, and in the....

<Dr. Simpson> periphery, and they have a number of effects, both as neurotransmitters....

<Dr. Simpson> and in addition, they have almost opposing effects in different locations, so over all there is not a broad effect that you can name...

<Dr. Simpson> there is, once you eliminate some excess weight, a slight decrease then an increase in the seratonin secretion...

<Dr. Simpson> in the hypothalmus of the brain, and there is an initial drop and then increase in dopamine in the...

<Dr. Simpson> substantia nigra of the brain, but we do not know if those effects are long term or not...

<Dr. Simpson> that is quite a question for a Friday.

<DENA> THANKS

<Dr. Simpson> The drop in Seratonin secretion, may be a reason for some post op depression, by the way.

<**MODERATOR**> GLORIA IN AK YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<gloria in ak> while in regular chat earlier a ladysaid her doc had her stop taking birth control pills to lessen the chance of blood clots, (my doc didnt tell me to do that) is that something i should be concerned about ?

<Dr. Simpson> Birth control pills do increase the risk of blood clots in everyone. ...

<Dr. Simpson> Since I do the duodenal switch, birth control pills don't work too well after the surgery....

<Dr. Simpson> for the first year or so, so I have patients stop those as well as any who might be on ...

<Dr. Simpson> estrogen replacement therapy, such as Premarin, to decrease the risk of blood clots....

<Dr. Simpson> not everyone does that, but it is something that we advise all patients who are undergoing surgery...

<Dr. Simpson> of course, you have to take other birth control precautions...

<gloria in ak> and does that include all forms of birthcontrol? pills etc?

<Dr. Simpson> there are some things worse than blood clots. Having a new child might be one of them.

<Gloria in AK> no kidding

<Dr. Simpson> no, just hormonal birth control. The use of....

<Dr. Simpson> mechanical birthcontrol is ok.

<Gloria in AK> thanks

<**MODERATOR**> KRISTYN HODGES YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION PLEASE:)

<Kristyn Hodges (-85> Can a post op or work out too much? and are abdominal excersizes (crunches) ok to do soon after surgery especially open DS?

<Dr. Simpson> After six weeks there is no problem doing that.....

<Dr. Simpson> so, after six weeks, you are healed well enough that you can exercise, and I would like it if you did...

<Dr. Simpson> because then, Kristyn, you will think all of your weight loss is my fault, and you will send me many gifts...

<Kristyn Hodges (-85> I am

<Dr. Simpson> and name government buildings after me.

<Dr. Simpson> Perhaps a mountain or two.

<Kristyn Hodges (-85> thanks

<Dr. Simpson> So, keep on exercising, and it will be just fine. Good luck, Kristyn -- you are doing great.

<Kristyn Hodges (-85> thanks...love ya babe

<**MODERATOR**> FRANKIE CA YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION PLEASE:)

<Frankie-CA 10wks PO> I have been refused an edg by the insurance co...already had the upper gi..I need a scoping what can I do to make myself comfortable in the interim?

<Dr. Simpson> why you think you need an EGD....

<Frankie-CA 10wks PO> I was told by the surgeon that I need one..constant diarrhea, vommitting 11 weeks PO...

<Dr. Simpson> Frankie-- then your surgeon will have to appeal that, and work with a gastroenterologist to see why you have that...

<**MODERATOR**> JANEFROM CANADA YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<janefromcanada> I'm having lap-band surgery in march - I'm wondering about a slow-down in metabolism due to rapid weight loss - also concerned about energy level as I'm a middle school teacher and I plan to return to work 11 days post-op

<Dr. Simpson> Jane, there is a slow down with weight loss, but it can be overcome with a lot of walking,...

<Dr. Simpson> which is why I push it so much. So, I want you to walk a lot and then you will not have that...

<janefromcanada> but what about energy level

<Dr. Simpson> the energy level will increase as you increase your activity...

<Dr. Simpson> you won't feel like walking, but the more you do, the better you will feel the following day...

<janefromcanada> so you think 11 dyas post op will be ok?

<Dr. Simpson> it is hard to get into that...

<janefromcanada> As long as I start walking right away?

<Dr. Simpson> 11 days post after a lap band should be just fine.

<Dr. Simpson> keep running after those kids...

<janefromcanada> I will be!!!

<Dr. Simpson> if you have kids like I was when I was in school you will be quite busy.

<janefromcanada> they're 6th graders!!

<**MODERATOR**> BETH YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<Beth> what vitamins do you recommend? Someone mentioned prenatal..is that okay? And also, how many a day?

<Dr. Simpson> Prenatal is just fine, as are Flintstones, as are Vista Vitamins, which are advertised here...

<Dr. Simpson> as are baritec, and an assortment of other vitamins. They are something you need, and the standard one a day or two a day will do you just fine...

<Beth> How many do you receommend

<Dr. Simpson> I think you should get Dr. Simpson's special vitamins, which I haven't formulated yet, but I will if you pay enough for them...

<Beth> Okay..that is great! I just want to be as healthy as possible

<Dr. Simpson> essentially, you need one vitamin a day

<Dr. Simpson> stay healthy. WALK!

<Beth> Why do other docs differ so much

<Beth> Some people take 12 a day!

<Dr. Simpson> because they are wrong.

<Beth> Thanks so much!!!! I appreciate this info

<**MODERATOR**> CINDY S YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<Cindy-surgery soon> Do you recommend somebody sleep in a recliner right after surgery? or is the bed ok? does it have to do with comfort level or possiblitity of opening the incision? i'm having OPEN RNY (i don't own a recliner at the moment but might be able to purchase one if its nessessary)

<Dr. Simpson> The recliner is more comfortable for a lot of people after surgery, so that is something you might think about buying...

<Dr. Simpson> in addition to getting a hand held shower apparatus, as well as a J-hook, and some baby wipes....

<Cindy-surgery soon> whats j hook?

<Dr. Simpson> Something that will reach your back end when you have an incision on your front...

<Dr. Simpson> and cannot clean yourself. Some medical supply places have them.

<Cindy-surgery soon> oh ok........thanks........

<Dr. Simpson> or a long pair of salad tongs-- which you don't need anymore.

<**MODERATOR**> KOLLADY YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<kollady 3days till s> Dr.S Hello! I'm 5'9 280 and having surgery on Monday. I have heard from others that the smaller u the slower u lose ur weight, and the bigger the faster. Is this true?

<Dr. Simpson> Well, yes and no. You have to remember that if you weigh 500 lbs going to 400 lbs is only losing 20 per cent of your weight...

<Dr. Simpson> so, they can do that in three months or so, and you will lose twenty per cent in that period of time also, but it wont be as much...

<Dr. Simpson> but trust me, the person who weighs 500 lbs wishes they weigh 280. So, don't worry about it. But...

<kollady 3days till s> ok thank you

<Dr. Simpson> if you want to lose more weight--- WALK

<Dr. Simpson> oh, did I tell you to walk?

<kollady 3days till s> lol

<kollady 3days till s> Thank You

<Dr. Simpson> you are welcome

<**MODERATOR**> STACY LYNN YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<Stacie Lynne> What percentage of people need blood transfusions during surgery? I'm hoping to have open rny in Feb. Thanks (And I love your humor-I thought you would say a J-hook was a Globe Trotter trick shot)

<Dr. Simpson> Stacie it depends on a lot of factors, I have had months of patients who never needed a transfusion, then in one week I had two...

<Dr. Simpson> so usually we don't need blood for this surgery, and about 5 per cent of the time it is a good idea to have a little Italian Red...

<Stacie Lynne> are there any factors that make it more likely?

<Dr. Simpson> if you are anemic to start, if you have some liver disease, if you have had a lot of previous surgery...

<Dr. Simpson> if you are blond. Lots of reasons.

<Stacie Lynne> Okey dokey... thanks....lol I'm not so I'm set

<Dr. Simpson> good luck, Stacie

<*MODERATOR**> KAREN YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<Karen> Karen< I was wondering if a higher bmi makes the surgery more dangerous are is it the same for everyone

<Dr. Simpson> A higher BMI does add morbidity to the operation.....

<**MODERATOR**> BONNY YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION

<Bonney> I would like to know if I will have to discontinue social parties and drinking for the rest of my life after I have the sugery?

<Dr. Simpson> and in terms of social parties, there is drinking after surgery.....

<Dr. Simpson> but you need to get to goal first, then have a glass of whatever...

<Bonney> yeah

<Dr. Simpson> start with water.

<Bonney> how will I control the sickness at work?

<Dr. Simpson> Sickness is something which you might not have, or you might....

<Dr. Simpson> so, you have to see how you do.

<Dr. Simpson> If it is diarrhea, then you have some things that you can do.

<Bonney> so will I have to half a trash can beside me?

<Dr. Simpson> No, Bonney, you don't

<Bonney> thanks

<**MODERATOR**> THERESA YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<Theresa> how common is it to have post op complications and how long out of post op contribute to death

<Dr. Simpson> Post op complications are something that can happen....

<Dr. Simpson> and it depends on the extent of what you are talking about...

<Dr. Simpson> in terms of wound infections, they happen to about 10 per cent of WLS patients..

<Dr. Simpson> hernias to about 15 per cent of patients.....

<Theresa> the connection of stomach to intestine

<Dr. Simpson> others are less, leaks about 1.5 per cent...

<Dr. Simpson> 1/200 for pulmonary embolus leading to death...

<Dr. Simpson> so, there is a fair number of complications, but it isn't too bad....

<Dr. Simpson> so go for it. Good luck.

<Theresa> it is the same for all surgeries

<Dr. Simpson> More with some bariatric patients.

<Theresa> thank you

<**MODERATOR**> JOYCE YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<Joyce (pre-op)> RNY still has me a little scared due to the fact that it alters my anatomy... I've never so much as broken a bone, had stitches, had tonsils out, etc. I've heard the Lap Band is not nearly as effective. What are your thoughts?

<Dr. Simpson> Lap band isn't as effective, and it can also lead to other problems.....

<Dr. Simpson> the RNY has a better success, and it is something which if you are going to go through surgery...

<Dr. Simpson> you might as well have something which is more effective and something....

<Dr. Simpson> which will last and keep you ok....

<Dr. Simpson> obesity also changes things in your life, and things in your internal organs...

<Dr. Simpson> which you don't think about, which are deadly, and which you don't need...

<Joyce (pre-op)> how can i get over the fear of it? i really need the surgery!

<Dr. Simpson> so, better to have the RNY. You cannot be over the fear of things...

<Dr. Simpson> that is the fun of it, like jumping of the bridge with a long cord, but not too long....

<Dr. Simpson> we would worry if you were not scared. Then we would be very worried...

<Dr. Simpson> we would think you were weird. So, just look at what is going to happen without the surgery...

<Joyce (pre-op)> wow, i'd never jump off a bridge!!! Scardey cat here!

<Dr. Simpson> and keep thinking about how you want to dance at your grandkids wedding...

<Dr. Simpson> then go for it.

<**MODERATOR**> DIANE YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION FOR OUR GUEST:)

<diane> I have arthritis in my knees and hips. when i'm postop is there other exercise to do right away instead of walking?

<Dr. Simpson> Water aerobics, water aerobics.....

<Dr. Simpson> and water aerobics.......

<diane> thanks!

<Dr. Simpson> find the YMCA(background song please)... or get a pool, come use mine....

<Dr. Simpson> good luck.

<**MODERATOR**> CINDY SURGERY SOON YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION FOR OUR GUEST:)

<Cindy-surgery soon> Anything you reccamend for pre ops to start doing now?? my dr hasn't really suggested anything but other peoples doctors have suggested starting protein, walking and multivitamins....Any advice? And thanks for taking the time to talk with us!! oh yeah and How soon post op can i go in a hottub?

<Dr. Simpson> Two weeks after surgery for the hottub...

<Cindy-surgery soon> k

<Dr. Simpson> yes, starting water, walking, and protein are good, as well as the vitamins...

<Dr. Simpson> the better shape you are in when you go to surgery, the better you will be when you have the surgery...

<Dr. Simpson> and the better you will do during surgery....

<Cindy-surgery soon> ok thanks :)

<Dr. Simpson> well, we all have those plateaus, even those of us who have not had the surgery....

<Dr. Simpson> so, walk, and walk some more.

<Dr. Simpson> good luck

<**MODERATOR**> PAM YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION PLEASE:)

<flamingo> is weights better than aerobics?

<Dr. Simpson> aerobics are better.

<Pam> I am 55 and Post Polio parapelgic.

<Dr. Simpson> love arobics.

<Pam> What exactly is RNY and how will not walking affect outcome

<Dr. Simpson> Not walking isn't a problem......

<Dr. Simpson> there are other things that you can do to exercise.....

<Dr. Simpson> and I have operated on parapelegics and they have done quite well...

<Dr. Simpson> motoring around in their wheel chairs....

<Pam> What is RNY--stomach and intestine

<Dr. Simpson> so, the RNY is Roux En Y gastric bypass, where a piece of intestine is hooked up to a small stomach pouch...

<Dr. Simpson> see my diagrams or the one on this site....

<Dr. Simpson> it will be a good thing. Go forth and surgerize.

<Pam> My dr says it will take 30-60 minutes is that right?

<Dr. Simpson> Well, Pam, that is a fast doctor, usually the RNY takes about 2 hours, 3 hours for DS

<Pam> He says divides stomach and there is a small whole in the smaller stomach that goes to the lower stoamch?

<Dr. Simpson> Pam, that is a vertical banded gastroplasty, or a lap band...

<Dr. Simpson> and that will take 30 to 60 minutes.....

<Dr. Simpson> and see what you like. Good luck.

<Pam> Thanks

<**MODERATOR**> JANEFROM CANADA YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<janefromcanada> I'm wondering about the port involved in the lap band surgery - I have a very rambunctious 4 year old and a 15 month old - what if they jump on my stomach? Also what about sex?? can your partner affect it? Oh geez - just saw your post on lap-band haveing other problems? what are they? there's a very very long waiting list for RNY in Canada....lap band is pretty much the only option here if I want surgery in the next 3 years...

<janefromcanada> sorry for the multiple questions

<Dr. Simpson> No sex after surgery ever again.

<janefromcanada> WHAT?????

<janefromcanada> LOL

<Dr. Simpson> No, the port will not be a problem, nor will rough housing...

<Dr. Simpson> and if that is the only option you have then that is the only one you have....

<Dr. Simpson> then go for it.

<janefromcanada> well - I could wait about 3 years

<janefromcanada> for the RNY

<Dr. Simpson> you could, or you could come to America.

<janefromcanada> what are the other complications involved

<Dr. Simpson> land of the free, home of the brave....

<janefromcanada> how much for an RNY in US

<janefromcanada> ?

<Dr. Simpson> lap band have a high revision rate, much higher than RNY...

<Dr. Simpson> and the cost of RNY varies from about 15k on up...

<Dr. Simpson> good luck.

<janefromcanada> my lap band is costing me 15k Canadian

<janefromcanada> ack! what kind of revisions?

<janefromcanada> it's not successful?

<Dr. Simpson> they have to move the lap band around, and refill and underfill, and move it, etc. Good luck

<Dr. Simpson> not as the RNY

<Dr. Simpson> RNY is better

<**MODERATOR**> STACIE LYNN YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<Stacie Lynne> (Y-M-C-A it's fun to lose at the Y-M-C-A... great, now I got that song stuck....) Me again, do you have any useful info to reduce hair loss, I have very thin fine hair to begin with....

<Dr. Simpson> Hair loss does not happen to all people, only about 30 per cent of folks....

<Dr. Simpson> and there is nothing you can do to really prevent it. If you have some deficiencies in protein or zinc...

<flamingo> is "stapled and divided" mean transected?

<Stacie Lynne> didn't know that, I hear alot about it though.

<Dr. Simpson> it will make it worse, but if you don't then it will just come and go

<Stacie Lynne> k, thanks again

<Dr. Simpson> I am lost with these question. Moderator-- help...

<**MODERATOR**> HEATHER YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<Heather> Dr. Simpson, what appears to be the revision rate from earlier bypasses?

<Dr. Simpson> Revision rate from bypass-- if you have a jejuno-ileal bypass you will need to have the thing revised...

<Heather> Sorry Dr. Simpson, what are the rates of revisons from past surgeries?

<Dr. Simpson> that is recommended because of the high complication rates including liver failure...

<Dr. Simpson> in terms of old stomach stapling surgery, there is a high rate from the horizontal stapling, and ....

<Dr. Simpson> lower from vertical banded, the RNY has a small revision rate...

<Heather> I worry because Ive been revised RNY but have no dumping

<Dr. Simpson> but the key is that if you have a revision, it is usually because something went wrong with the surgery...

<Dr. Simpson> not if you out eat your pouch..

<Dr. Simpson> So, rates are variable. Good luck. Next???

<Dr. Simpson> that is for themoderator

<Heather> I wish they could explain, no disruption

<**MODERATOR**> GLORIA IN AK YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION:)

<gloria in ak> I sauna a LOT 3/4 times a week, after surg, if i sauna, will i have to increase the amount of water i would normally drink?have to pretend i am in the sun lol:)

<Dr. Simpson> ok, Gloria.... my fellow Alaskan. Yes, you will have to increase the water you drink....

<Gloria in AK> thank you sir

<Dr. Simpson> it is important to keep hydrated.

<Dr. Simpson> so drink, lots of water, lots of it, and keep drinking it.

<Gloria in AK> aye aye sir :)

<**MODERATOR**> POCO YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION PLEASE:)

<Poco 9/24/02> Hi Dr.Simpson.....what would you say makes some peoples hair fall out after surgery and how can you prevent it or slow it down? Thanks.... Oh someone just asked a question about hair so for get this question, but thanks anyway

<Dr. Simpson> You are welcome POCO=== hair today, gone tomorrow

<Dr. Simpson> use super glue, it will keep the hair on.

<Poco 9/24/02> lol

<**MODERATOR**> ERIN YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION PLEASE:)

<Erin> I was told I have a fatty liver and they are going to test it further when I have my surgery. What is it they are testing exactly or what are they looking for?.

<Dr. Simpson> What they will do is take a small biopsy of the liver and see if you have cirrhosis, ...

<Dr. Simpson> that is what they will do. The fatty liver will get better with time after your surgery..

<Gloria in AK> pm the moderator for ???

<Erin> and if I have it what is the treatment

<Dr. Simpson> the treatment for fatty liver is having weight loss surgery and losing weight and avoiding carbohydrates which cause it in the first place.

<Erin> I see thank you

<**MODERATOR**> MT YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION PLEASE:)

<mt> Is the duodenal swithc better than the RNy?

<Dr. Simpson> The surgery which is best for you is the surgery which your surgeon does....

<Dr. Simpson> a lot of people have the RNY and do very well by it, and about 8 per cent of bariatric surgeries are the DS...

<mt> <I have heard the DS does not give you dumping problems

<Dr. Simpson> and people do quite well with that surgery also, it does depend....

<Dr. Simpson> dumping is not a problem, usually, with the duodenal switch, although about five per cent of people will have it...

<Dr. Simpson> in spite of what they say. But DS does allow you to eat a few more things, and have a bit more normal a life...

<mt> Do you know any doctors in TX who do the DS I think I am more interestedin it than RNY

<Dr. Simpson> but you can overcome any surgery with grazing and high carbohydrate dies....

<Dr. Simpson> I don't off hand...

<**MODERATOR**> LAWANDA YOU HAVE THE LAST QUESTION:)

<lawanda> would you say that a person who has the RNY has the same life expectancy as someone who has never had bypass surgery? also excess protein makes me have blood in my urine can a modified diet of protein and carbs be as effective to control this problem?Dr. Simpson> I don't know why excess protein would make you have blood in your urine, however....

<Dr. Simpson> you can expect that you will need to have a higher protein diet after the surgery....

<Dr. Simpson> and in terms of life expectancy, you have to take in to account the following:

<Dr. Simpson> there is a risk of death from surgery of about one in two hundred, and those people do not have ...

<Dr. Simpson> a normal life expectancy....

<Dr. Simpson> and there is also a risk of death 12 times that every year for someone who is morbidly obese.,...

<Dr. Simpson> so that is another factor, All in all, people who have morbid obesity are better off

<Dr. Simpson> to have the surgery than not, so go for it and good luck. Good night everyone

<**MODERATOR**> THANK YOU SO MUCH DR. SIMPSON FOR JOINING US TONIGHT, AND THANK YOU MEMBERS AS WELL!:)

<TAMMY> THANK YOU DR. SIMPSON! MEMBERS! PLEASE VISIT DR. SIMPSON AT: WWW.ARIZONZBARIATRICCENTER.COM



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